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Jon Jones vs Francis Ngannou: The Pesky Return of Jones’ Nightmare Post UFC 260

Jon Jones vs Francis Nganou Post UFC 260: The Pesky Return of Jones’ Nightmare

Francis Nganou’s crushing win over Stipe Miocic last night brought Jon Jones to the precarious place he was back in 2015 with a freight train named Rumble Johnson coming straight at him.  For the youngest UFC Light Heavyweight Champion who had (with the exception of Gustaffson) handily beat every challenger in his path some seven times over, this was not a familiar or particularly comfy place to be in. Reason?

Francis Ngannou, UFC Heavyweight Champion, Pic - Getty Images 03-28-21

Just when Jon Jones thought it was safe to come out from under his safe blanket, out pops Francis Ngannou to set up Jon Jones vs Francis Ngannou: The Pesky Return of Jones’ Nightmare Post UFC 260. Francis Ngannou is is Rumble Johnson on Yohimbe boost. No picograms here; no picograms. Pic – Getty Images

Jones understands the language of violence and dominance at an elemental level. And with Rumble Johnson, he knew that he was no longer the alpha dog in the yard given Rumble’s instinctual grasp of the language of dominance and proven predilection for crushing crania and turning guys’ lights out. (EXHIBIT 10: The slugger had cracked Gustaffson’s cranium in front of  horrified Swedish blondes). Given that instinctive reckoning, Jones had been deferential to Rumble when he was not and hiding his dis-ease behind the clowning and awkward on-camera punking of Dana.

Jones may not be as instinctively unsettled by Nganou as he was by Rumble due to personal and sub-cultural code idiosyncracies, but he is a realist. Francis is indubitably the more physically dominant of the two, and there is a distinct pheromonal odor that goes with that ish. Given unforced choices, Jones would have nothing to do with Rumble or Nganou in this lifetime. And my sense is that he will find a convenient financial pretext for NOT fighting Francis Nganou and sit out out as long as he can while hoping that a Derrick Lewis, Stipe Miocic or some other heavyweight dude not named Jones scrapes by the new champion to afford him safer place from which contend. That is how Floyd Mayweather curated his “undefeated” record into fake “undefeated” territory. Besides,  Jon Jones grew up with two NFL Ngannous, so he intimately knows what the deal of being mounted and dominated is.

Francis Ngannou vs Jon Jones, Youtube Reactions 03-28-21

“Out of mouths of babes, out of the mouths of babes indeed …..” Youtube Truth, Uncut and Unmoderated.

Peralez2383, 17 Hours Ago: “Time to triple the picograms” (Youtube Commenter, Jon Jones Responds on Being Afraid Afraid of Fighting Francis Ngannou)

If the teasing gets to him and he decides to risk it all and fight the African nightmare named Francis, it may very well be the end of his undefeated but asterisked record. In the interim, he will have to put up with Israel Adesanya who will probably troll him to death with the opening salvo coming from non other than the Shaven Head of the UFC himself:

“If I’m Jon Jones and I’m home watching this fight, I start moving to 185,” (Dana White at UFC 260 Post Fight Press Conference, Las Vegas, NV)

To which Jon Jones replied with a weak: “Go to 185? I didn’t gain all this weight for no reason” (Jon Jones Twitter)

But equally weak and telling was Jones initial response to Francis Ngannou’s victory and intimations of a match-up between the two. “Show me the money,” Jones tellingly responded which translates into, “I really don’t wanna fight this dude, but if I really had to I need a good pretext to back out.” A dude who was really dying (pun fully intended) to prove “his self” would have said, “It’s on! – pending the working out of financial details!” That is the sound of a guy who wants to fight, not the hedgey, “Show me the money!” which sounds like a guy who wants to live a “loooong life ….. (coz) longevity has its place.”(MLK) This ain’t the sound of a man who “has been to the mountain and seeeen the promised land.” (Again MLK)

Another reason which points to Jon’s fear is that, “Show me the money” would have sounded strange had he said it of fighting Stipe, Derrick Lewis, Israel Adesanya or any man not named Francis “The Predator” Ngannou. But come to think of it, ducking Ngannou makes a lot of survival sense; fuck all that legacy B.S. which is for true believers without an ounce of Mayweather street sense. In this sense, Jon Jones and Israel Adesanya have something very much in common: they take on opponents they think they can beat. The only time Adesanya diverged from this tried and true stratagem to fight Yoel Romero, he nearly paid for it with one of his nine lives. He gamely survived by choosing not to engage the Cuban nightmare after his orbital got crushed in front of UFC ring girls. For both  Jones and Adesanya respectively, Gustafsson and Reyes for Jones and Kevin Gastellum for Adesanya,  were gross miscalculations which nearly cost them their then undefeated records, which is one of the reasons Jon Jones will come in as a dog should he decide (against street sense) to fight Francis Ngannou. And early moneyline is already showing Jones as a dog at +160 versus Ngannou’s -180.

My bet is that this fight does not happen ….. at least not anytime soon. Inspite of his instagram protestations, Jones doesn’t want it and he is gonna push the money pretext as hard as he can and Dana will push back even harder. Perfect partners in this bizarre dance.The likelihood of Jones relenting (in the name of legacy) is infinitely zero. So there you have it.

This is BNSG on the MMA tip ……….. gratis.

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The Inexplicable Showing (Or Non-Showing) Of Tyron Woodley at UFC 174

If Tyron Woodley thinks he doesn’t owe fans an explanation as to why he mailed in a dismal  performance at UFC 174, then he really has no idea which side of his bread is buttered;  and for a guy who is nudging 33, this is no trivial matter, assuming of course that Tyron exists in the same time zone as most of his more serious fans.

“Many are called, but few are frozen” Unknown Bard

Perhaps he needs more time to clear his head, OK that’s fair;  folks need time sometimes. So we won’t be too hard on him, but the fact that he has not let on a little about what really happened to him at the Rogers Arena on June 14th, is a tad troubling. And no, the pat “I lost to a better man” is not even close to enough in this case. It is not enough because people who had seen Tyron Woodley in his buzz-saw performance against Carlos Condit could not, in any way, shape or form, connect him to the Tyron Woodley who showed up at UFC 174.  The Tyron Woodley of UFC 171 was a buzz-saw; and the Tyron Woodley of UFC 174 was a bleepin’ zombie. Put another way, UFC 174 looked like a movie in which Tyron was playing the part of a can. Why?

Woodley: Serious splainin' to do after UFC 174.

The Chosen One …. as in “Many are called, but few are frozen.” Tyron Woodley has some serious, serious splainin’ to fans and the like  after his dismal performance at UFC 174.

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And so Rampage wins UFC 123 by a wrangled decision – Whoop de friggin’ doo! – Extra, Extra!

Which really means, “who fuckin’ cares” – especially after a snoozer of the first two rounds. Ditto if Machida had won by a similar decision. But to Rampage’s credit, he did not try to make a big deal out of it ….. which kind of makes him a bigger man than Machida was at UFC 104 (after Shogun lost via controversial decision.)

Fights like UFC 123 – in as far as they relate to timing, substance and outcome – prove that not every card is worth $40 a ticket of pay per view or the  hundreds of dollars fans pay to plump their arses into hard-scrabble arena seats. UFC 123 like many before and after it was an event cobbled out of thin air, B.J. Penn’s inspired knockout of Matt Hughes notwithstanding.   The UFC should do better than what it did last night – i.e. make rabid fans throw their hard-earned dollars at an event that meant little or nothing. Machida vs Rampage was a tired, passe affair of a fight from the day it was announced to the closing buzzer.  And all this Rampage-inspired froth about a rematch is lamer than lame. It is even lamer than the pretext Dana White and Rampage gave about why  why what would have been their virginal  face-off  at UFC 104 was postponed.

Rampage Beats Machida - AP

Rampage edges Machida by a decision at UFC 123. Photo: Associated Press

What it says to the discriminating is that not every show UFC puts on is must-see TV – let alone something worth shelling hard earned bucks at. Rampage vs Evans was fabricated froth that was all head and no hops.

So I am whipping up this jaundiced concoction with nary a third-party reference because it isn’t worth cross-referencing with much.  This fight was that unremarkable. Shrug this off and keep your wits about you. Good fights will come. Any well-matched fight involving Velasquez, Carwin, JDS, Silva, Jon Jones, et al. is gonna be worth your dinero.  Meanwhile look far and wide for the next big thing. Competition fires the evolution of this sport.

I am BNSG on the MMA tip.

© 2010 incrucible.net @ bnsg.wordpress.com

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Post Fight Interview

Rampage Jackson is retired and UFC 123 will prove whether he is coming out of his mental hiatus (BNSG, incrucible.net)

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Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin II in 2011: The fight that will never happen now

Before Cain Velasquez  mauled Brock Lesnar, the biggest fight of 2011 was gonna be  Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin II – the rematch. And some of us had rashly predicted that this fight would take place by UFC 136 before Christmas of  2011.  Then came Cain Velasquez and changed all of that.  So we have to re-draw possible scenarios going forth with a mind to whether Brock Lesnar even wants to fight anymore.  Our money is on him not wanting to fight anymore inspite of the  interview in which he says he is ready to fight at the Ultimate Fighter reality TV show in which he is slated to be an instructor opposite Junior Dos Santos.

It is highly improbable that Brock Lesnar wants to face the straight bust-’em-up firepower of Junior Dos Santos so soon after Cain Velasquez. It is doubtful that Brock wants to fight in real, unscripted fights because a lot has changed since UFC 116 when Carwin showed the world how vulnerable  Brock Lesnar was. Cain cemented that impression.  Junior Dos Santos would simply confirm it.

The Descent of Brock Lesnar: Brock Lesnar, the athletic phenom who came into  MMA and the UFC saying that he wanted a piece of the  real action is no longer the man he was when he blasted Min Soo Kim into submission for his MMA debut. His appetite for eating real leather is flagging faster than his cardio at UFC 121. My guess is that  Brock Lesnar is looking for a dignified exit right now.  It will probably come from his doctors.  So people who are expecting him to fight Junior Dos Santos at the end of the next Ultimate Fighter are most probably wishing upon a star. The same applies to the Lesnar vs Carwin scenario. Methinks Lesnar is actually more afraid of Carwin than Velasquez.  Just a mental thing  that has little to do with reality. Velasquez did way more damage to Lesnar’s face and ego than Carwin ever did.

So where do we go from here. Well, flip a coin basically – but don’t expect Brock’s head to come up because he is a-leavin’ – unless something very dramatic happens with his physical and fighting condition. My reasoning is based on the surmise that it  just wasn’t just Velasquez who put the hurt on Brock at UFC 121. Brock’s body, mind and spirit were implicated in that order.  They  failed to respond when he called upon them to and it wasn’t for lack of trying. (Everybody remembers how Lesnar shot out of his corner like a cannon and attacked Velasquez with a ferocity that was stunning.  However seconds into the attack  it was clear that that the athleticism that had made up for shoddy skills was no longer there. At that point Lesnar’s spirit breaks. You can see it as Cain mounts him from the back and pounds the side of his face as Lesnar, on all fours,  covers with one hand. Everything starts to unravel in slow motion. The stumble across the octagon becomes a farcical echo of what happened seconds into the fight.)

Brock Lesnar’s breakdown built upon the montage of a decline that started at  UFC 116: the near merciless beating at the hands of the man some writer described as the  “Behemoth from Boulder.”  Brock never forgot that.  Cain Velasquez brought it all back in mind numbing waves.

Who would have thunk this. Not me.  I didn’t think Cain had a fighting chance. What a difference a few months makes.

Shane Carwin - Next Champion

Shane Carwin is still a strong contender for the UFC heavyweight division inspite of the double threat of Cain Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos. Brock is really out of the picture at this point, unless his physical and fighting condition improves drastically.

Badass Brock

Brock Lesnar: Is this the end for the self-proclaimed "meanest SOB"? I think so.

BNSG on MMA tip.

© 2010 incrucible.net @ bnsg.wordpress.com

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UPDATE, UPDATE! Brock Lesnar out of UFC 131 (against JDS) replaced by Carwin vs JDS   (The Underground 05/13/11)

“My guess is that  Brock Lesnar is looking for a dignified exit right now.  It will probably come from his doctors.”  (BNSG, incrucible.net Oct. 9, 2010)

What is Brock Lesnar actually saying here: The perplex of a man who would be champ (BNSG, incrucible.net)

Did Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez exposed Brock Lesnar as a shadow of his former self? (BNSG, incrucible.net)

Cain Velasquez upsets Brock Lesnar at UFC 121 and how some of us got it all wrong (BNSG, incrucible.net)

Gracie breakdown of Lesnar vs Carwin I (Gracie Jiu-jitsu, Youtube)

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In UFC 121: Cain Velasquez will be in the fight of his life against Brock Lesnar – Preview Videos

Like UFC 116 before it, Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez (UFC 121) will be watched by millions standing on the balls of people’s feet. No ifs,  ands or buts about this. But for Cain Velasquez this will be the the fight of a lifetime with the baddest schoolyard bully since high school.  And the emotions coming out of Velasquez will be as real as jets squirting out of a sulphur spring. We will describe none as fear and loathing – but rest assured they would be of equitable magnitude.

Cain Velasquez and UFC 121

The Naked Truth: Cain Velasquez - gladiatorial, proud and determined. But will this be enough to help him beat Brock Lesnar at UFC 121? Watch Cain's pre-fight interviews. He does not sound very convincing when he says he is gonna beat Brock.

The outcome of this fight is predetermined: A Lesnar win by submission or TKO via ground-and-pound before the end of round two.  Brock Lesnar is the figurative  freight train that came around just too fast for this nascent fighter. Cain will just not  be able to handle the force,  mass and momentum of a re-galvanized Brock Lesnar? (Remember that in his head, Lesnar is really fighting Carwin.) In this sense it IS kind of unfortunate that Cain’s number came up so fast.  And talking about time sneakin’ up on ya, who would have thunk that Lesnar vs Velasquez would be rolling around in just over 3 weeks? Well, its here folks. And unfortunately time just isn’t on Cain’s side – but fortunately for him he is young enough to recover from the impending loss and mount a credible comeback within about two years.

Brock Lesnar - Firmer, Trimmer

Firmer, trimmer and ready to rock: The new and improved Brock Lesnar holding court ahead of UFC 121 and his fight against Cain Velasquez. By the looks and sounds of things there is gonna be a mauling that night.

The Lopsided Facts & Factors of UFC 122 (Is Cain being overhyped by his corner?)

1. In order to even have a chance in this fight, Cain Velasquez will have to go to the max and then some. This means that on top of his ballyhooed cardio, he has to bring out more in terms of striking or wrestling (defensive or offensive) than he has brought in any one of his previous fights. Brock is a different kind of animal. Cain’s wins over Big Nog and Cheick Kongo ain’t gonna count for sh*t because none of them are within spitting distance of where Brock is right now. The beast would murder both within a single night. Welcome to the big leagues.

The challenge for Cain is gonna be upping his game to the said max then maintaining mental and strategic discipline …. you know the old, stick with the game-plan thingy? In this case n UFC 121 is gonna afford an intriguing peek into Velasquez’s mental process while under stress. Nothing is more of a measure of a man than this. Is he gonna display balls of steel or is he gonna hit the panic button and resultantly make a bunch of mistakes?

2. Velasquez is a better all round MMA fighter than Brock Lesnar will ever be in this and perhaps the next lifetime – but that ain’t gonna matter because Brock is a different kind of animal in this caged menagerie. He, Brock knows it and so do many other fighters, Couture included. Cain just doesn’t have the critical mass, size and technique-wise to get out of the belly of this beast.

This, coincidentally, is indicative of the Faustian bargain Dana White struck with the Entertainment devil when he brought Brock Lesnar into the UFC. He got a publicity card and a freakshow along with that – and one that insidiously undermines what  the UFC stands  for …. ostensibly of course. But I digress.

3. Cain who is evolving beautifully in the kicks department will not be able to make Brock Lesnar eat kicks and knees without paying dearly via instant takedowns by Lesnar.  Mir’s knees, among other things,  cost him plenty in his rematch with Lesnar. Cain’s best shot is to stand up and deliver, but does he have the base or power of Shane Carwin? BNSG thinks not. So Cain’s best counter strategy is to have the strength and artistry to  survive Lesnar’s take-downs and ground-and-pound. Does Cain have enough in this department?

Out of the Mouth of Obscene Babes: If Velasquez thinks he can put it up to Lesnar he is fucking high.I’d like to see this @@##!! step into the octagon with Shane Carwin first. Shane carwin would put him to sleep in less than 2 minutes. Velasquez doesn’t stand a chance. And if he thinks having quick hands will beat Lesnar then he must have the same kind of power as Carwin to trouble Lesnar. He dosen’t. Lesnar will take him down and ground and pound him till the ref has to pull Lesnar off of him. LESNAR WINS THIS IN ROUND ONE. Lesnar is number 1. Carwin is number 2. F@@##!!-quez is no.3  (Reader comment by Brock Lesnar Fan – October 9, 2010 @ 2:46 pm  UFC Primetime – Lesnar vs Velasquez Off To Slow Start, 5th Round)

The bottomline of is that hype ain’t gonna cut it when it comes Brock Lesnar and UFC 121.  Lesnar is just too squarely ensconced on his perch for Velasquez or his unrelenting style to make a difference. Couture was good in UFC 91, so was Carwin in UFC 116. It didn’t matter because none of them had the critical mass to defeat  Brock.

Is Cain being overhyped by his corner? There is obligatory rah rah for your man and there is straight talk about how things are gonna go down come Saturday night two weeks hence.  Check out the pre-fight scoop here and decide for yourself. BNSG thinks Velasquez’s corner is gaming the psyche here.

Stay tuned for more on the breakdown as UFC 121 approaches. It might save you mucho dinero, if nothing else.

Meanwhile the gambling line odds are suggesting “nyet” on a Velasquez win:

Martin Kampmann (+210) vs. Jake Shields (-280)
Tito Ortiz (+140) vs. Matt Hamill (-170)
Cain Velasquez (+140) vs. Brock Lesnar (-170)

You can convert the odds here FYI.

The Predictive Lowdown on UFC 121

BNSG thinks the odds are are not even close to where there should be. Cain has very little chance of beating Brock. In this respect the headline “Cain Velasquez beats Brock Lesnar” would be news in the same way that “Postman Bites Dog” would be news. It will not happen in this case. Velasquez is a great guy – and BNSG is totally behind him in this fight. But one has to make a calibrated distinction between one’s wishes and the reality of this situation. A lot of people are placing rash bets on their wishes which is a surefire way of losing the family farm if you ask “The G”. Emotionally and mentally, Cain was not even on Brock’s radar until this week. Carwin was. And when the signal for the fight is given Brock will be fighting his doubters more than the men in front of him. In this sense he will not want to just win, but win with an exclamation mark – and thus stick it to his doubters.

“Death”  by Smothering or Clubbing?

And here is how way Lesnar is gonna do it. Well timed explosions. Well timed explosions like take downs for example. Brock Lesnar will not waste time asserting himself, so expect this in the first round. And because Cain is an irrepressible customer – Brock will waste time going for total control Mir style. Too much trouble. Lesnar will try to contain Velasquez long enough to club him – either on the ground or against the cage Carwin’s style, because that is how one subdues  wiggly or unruly prey. Club it to “death” as it were. Total domination in the clinch or on the ground may not happen with an irrepressible customer like Velasquez. So go for the stun in dirty boxing or club and mug scenarios as the best way to take the piss out an unruly pug. And there is a good chance that in trying to tough this fight out l’outrance, Cain will get hurt Heath Herring stlye. Mark “The G’s” words.

Brock Lesnar in round one or two!

BNSG on the MMA tip.

Key Links:

UFC 121 Previews in English and Spanish (Yahoo Sports)

Countdown to UFC 121 (UFC Website)

Champ Brock Lesnar keeps revolving door policy for UFC 121 fight camp (Steve Marocco, MMA Junkie)

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Frank Mir should stay out of the business of theorizing about fights – period.

UFC 119 being a case in point. Is anyone still listening? After porking up and then slimming down post UFC 100 – Frank’s latest spiel about bulls and matadors and fighting heavy versus light ahead of tomorrow’s UFC 119 – who is still listening? The gist of what he is saying is basically this:  porking up slows you down while toning down can turn you into a fleet-footed matador. OK – perhaps, but Brock Lesnar (and Shane Carwin for that matter) could still kick your ass at any size or weight. So what’s the point?

Frank Mir’s logic or what passes for it, can be loopy depending on what he is trying to spin.  His assessment of his own skills versus those of others proves that you cannot take him at face value. His attempt at sizing up his skills following the Cheick Kongo and Nogueira fights are a very good example of the man’s blind spots. There is just too much spin in Frank’s spiel to be of any use to the casual fan ….. too much  chaff to sift through before one can get at any nuggets of wisdom or insight.   Compare Frank’s analyses with that of say a Shane Carwin to get a sense of how ungrounded Frank’s assessments are, the obligatory rah-rah not withstanding.

Mir as microphone fly

Frank Mir as microphone fly: The key to figuring out Frank Mir, as trite as that may sound, is checking out what he actually does as opposed to what he says – also known as the ultimate BS filter. Pic: Josh Hedges, UFC

Frank would be much better off if he let his fighting do the talking but holding him to this standard is probably too much for a man whose mouth is a big part of his being-in-the-world.

Obvious Tip: Figuring out Frank depends more on watching what he actually does instead of what he says.

Meta-analysis.   Going back to Frank’s matador simile, charging at Frank’s ring props – his verbal red flags – leads to nothing but thin air. UFC 119 holds nothing for Frank Mir. If he wins against a clearly fading vet, it proves nothing. If he loses, it proves nothing that the cognoscenti don’t already know.  The fact of the matter is that Frank Mir will never get near the event horizon of his division.  UFC 81 was a belated and transitory high point. The Brock Lesnars, Shane Carwins, Cain Velasquezes and Junior Dos Santoses of the new heavyweight division would ice his behind on any day of the week. BNSG on the  MMA tip.

Key Links: Frank Mir says Brock Lesnar needs a win – Wants to fight Brendan Schaub next instead (Nick Thomas, Bloody Elbow)

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B.J. Penn is done in by supreme confidence in his own chops

BJ Penn Headgame

Psychology of the game: How it undermined BJ Penn’s comeback bid against Frank Edgar at UFC 118.

B.J. Penn probably thinks of Frankie Edgar as a scrapper who is undeserving of his sense of panic or fear. In that regard what played out last night at UFC 118 was a corresponding script in which a  seasoned MMA vet  refused to be fazed into changing his tack even as Frankie Edgar piled on the points while dancing and weaving like a crazed mannequin. Against this frenzy, there was something about B.J. Penn that smacked of  Frank Mir-esque equanimity and swagger in the face of Lesnar-esque bullying. Last night’s fight could have turned out like Anderson Silva’s UFC 117: a study in nail-biting brinksmanship that goes straight to the record books.  But we  know how UFC 100 ended for Mir and we now know how UFC 118 ended for B.J. Penn. In that connection there is a sense in which B.J. Penn was really done in by his own swagger: his unflagging belief in the superiority of his game. It takes balls to not lose one’s cool as one is being peppered with jabs and hooks of an energizer bunny on figurative steroids.  But one has to question the outcome and B.J. Penn’s decision to keep his cool and not switch tack by the third round when it looked like things were going downhill.

There was a psychology at work here. It’s not just a physical thing of a vet being physically bullied by a scrappy fighter whose cardio seems off the charts – but a mental … even a spiritual thing.  I will go into it later.

BNSG on the MMA tip.

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Appendices:

Watch out Frankie Edgar, angry BJ Penn is back (fightofthenight.com)

Lights dim out for James Toney, Edgar repeats / ESPN post-UFC 118 show (Jake Rosen, ESPN Mixed Martial Arts Blog)

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